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let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing conditions. there is a reason why governor romney set up a plan he did in massachusetts. it was not a government takeover of health carr. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. what it does say is insurers, you havv to take everybody. that also means yyu have more customers. but when governor romney says he will replace it with some thing, but can not detail how it will be replaced, and the reason he said the system in massachusetts is because there is not a better way of dealing with the pre-existing conditions problem. he says he will
let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing...
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now, governor romney said he wants to repeal dodd-frank. and i appreciate and it appears we have some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. but in the past, governor romney says he wants to repeal dodd-frank, roll it back. so the question is, does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- >> sorry, jim. that's not the facts. we have to have regulation on wall street. that's why i'd have regulation, but i wouldn't designate five banks too big and fail and give them a blank check. one of the unintended consequences of dodd-frank. it wasn't thought through properly. we need to get rid of it, regional and small banks are getting hurt. another regulation, we were giving mortgages to people who weren't qualified. exactly right. one of the reasons for the great financial calamity we had. and dodd-frank says we need qualified mortgages and if you give a mortgage that's
now, governor romney said he wants to repeal dodd-frank. and i appreciate and it appears we have some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. but in the past, governor romney says he wants to repeal dodd-frank, roll it back. so the question is, does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- >> sorry, jim....
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governor romney had a good night. this was a very strong performance by governor romney. he needed one and i think he got it. >> mitt romney did himself a lot of good tonight. he was there on the issues. he did not back down to the president or the moderator and he did not cross the line. you can do that, and i think that would have backfired on him. i watched obama debate alive in primaries when i was with clinton -- debate a lot in primaries. this is the guy that showed up. he is a good debater, but doesn't enjoy it. you look through this debate, ann romney looked like he enjoyed it and was having fun. obama just looked sort of sour and it was like another headache that he had to be there. romney support is needed to be reinvigorated. the question is, what did happen with the undecideds. is that enthusiasm going to spread out in terms of who is going to vote. >> was their body language that you noticed? >> i thought both of them behaved with considerable dignity and courtesy to each other, which people like. as meaghan pointed out, the president was continually looking
governor romney had a good night. this was a very strong performance by governor romney. he needed one and i think he got it. >> mitt romney did himself a lot of good tonight. he was there on the issues. he did not back down to the president or the moderator and he did not cross the line. you can do that, and i think that would have backfired on him. i watched obama debate alive in primaries when i was with clinton -- debate a lot in primaries. this is the guy that showed up. he is a good...
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we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> greta: i thought one of the questions governor romney handled well was the bipartisan question. we had a discussion about the fact there is no budget. we can't get a budget here beca
we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there...
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governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing obama care you're looking at 50 million people losing health insurance at a time when it's vitally important. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from
governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing...
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governor romney's plan the work for you. math, common sense, and our history shows us that is not a recipe for job growth. we have tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth and 50 years. we ended up living from surplus to deficits. it culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit. >> he gets the first word of that segment. let me make this comment. let me repeat what i said. i am not in favo
governor romney's plan the work for you. math, common sense, and our history shows us that is not a recipe for job growth. we have tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth and 50 years. we ended up living from surplus to deficits. it culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23...
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but let's go back to what governor romney indicated. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-existing conditions. well, actually, governor, that isn't what your plan dis. what your plan does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of length insurance for 3 months, then you can end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company can't deny you if it's been under 90 days. but that's already the law. that doesn't help the millions of people out there with pre-existing conscience. there is a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is that insurers, have you to take everybody. now, that also means have you more customers. but when governor romney says he will replace it with something, but can't detail how it will be in fact replaced and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts was because there isn't a better way of dealin
but let's go back to what governor romney indicated. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-existing conditions. well, actually, governor, that isn't what your plan dis. what your plan does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of length insurance for 3 months, then you can end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company can't deny you if it's been under 90 days. but that's already the law. that doesn't help the millions of people out...
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because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor tell the president directly why you think what he just said is wrong about obama care. >> well, i did with my first statement but i'll go on. >> you did. please elaborate. >> exactly. first of all, i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i liked the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. as a matter of fact when massachusetts did something quite extraordinary, elected a republican senator to stop obama care, you pushed it through anyway. the so entirely on a partisan basis,
because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor tell the president directly why you think what he just said is...
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governor romney earlier mentioned the bowles-simpson commission. well that's how the commission bipartisan commission, that talked about how we should move forward suggested we have do it, in a balanced way with some revenue and some spending cuts. >> all right. when we put the president's proposal under the lens on this one, glenn, what do you find out? >> yeah, there's not much there. this is fantasy washington accounting, really. you know, he -- when i had looked at this before, essentially it's maybe one dollar of tax cuts for one dollar of spending cuts. but a lot of the spending cuts in there are, you know, are made up, so to speak. for instance, he gives himself $800 billion worth of credit for any awards in afghanistan and iraq, that money that wasn't going to be spent anyway. counts $1 trillion in spending cuts already banked, no matter who was president that would happen. it's really not at all like the simpson-bowles commission when you do apples to apples, the simpson-bowles commission over ten years would reduce the deficit by 50% more
governor romney earlier mentioned the bowles-simpson commission. well that's how the commission bipartisan commission, that talked about how we should move forward suggested we have do it, in a balanced way with some revenue and some spending cuts. >> all right. when we put the president's proposal under the lens on this one, glenn, what do you find out? >> yeah, there's not much there. this is fantasy washington accounting, really. you know, he -- when i had looked at this before,...
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because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. martha: massachusetts congressman barney frank slammed governor romney calling his proposal impossible. one thing i thought was so interesting in this segment is when mitt romney came around and said was if you mr. president protected the five biggest banks in the country by making them too big to fail and in the process we lost hundreds of little banks around the country who had to fold. so you had mitt romney, who has classically been pegged the rich out of touch wall street type guy saying you are the one who protected wall street and let these others fall down. bill: ed rollins said this debate last night is all about mitt romney. because you want voters to sit at home and say maybe. and governor romney did that, hitting the president hard on record spending and the deficit. calling it at one moment immoral for america. >> i think it's frankly not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next gen
because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. martha: massachusetts congressman barney frank slammed governor romney calling his proposal impossible. one thing i thought was so interesting in this segment is when mitt romney came around and said was if you mr. president protected the five biggest banks in the country by making them too big to fail and in the process we lost hundreds of little banks around the country who had to fold. so you had mitt romney, who has classically been...
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i did not see that with governor romney. he was very much against every aspect of the affordable care act at one time and now when he sees how popular the aspects of pre-existing conditions and no cap on benefits, he's suddenly jumping onboard with that. so i thought, saw that as another example of his changing his message to fit what he thinks is his audience. >> reporter: okay. a lot of you before we got together said you wanted to hear specifics during tonight's program. did you hear what you needed to hear on the issue that makes you, as a voter, respond. the thing that you've been most worried about? nancy? >> i'm here for my kids and my parents. but that's how i feel right now and i'm worried about the debt with the economy the way it is and i'm worried for my father who's a veteran. and his care. and i'm worried about the debt for my kids and future grandkids. and that bothers me, you know and nothing got answered. when is the money going to stop and let's fix everyone. we're not doing it. we're not doing it. >> for t
i did not see that with governor romney. he was very much against every aspect of the affordable care act at one time and now when he sees how popular the aspects of pre-existing conditions and no cap on benefits, he's suddenly jumping onboard with that. so i thought, saw that as another example of his changing his message to fit what he thinks is his audience. >> reporter: okay. a lot of you before we got together said you wanted to hear specifics during tonight's program. did you hear...
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governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely. >> lehrer: completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> lehrer: okay. >> we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> lehrer: mr. president you're saying in order to get the job done it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious we've got to take a balanced responsible approach. and by the way this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now i've identified areas where we can right away make a change that i believe w
governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely. >> lehrer: completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >>...
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governor romney earlier mentioned the simpson commission. that's how the bipartisan commission that talked about how we should move forward, suggested we should do it. with some revenue and some spending cuts. and this is a major difference that governor romney and i have. let me just finish this point, because you're looking for contrasts. you know, when governor romney stood on a stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cuts for just $1 of revenue? and he said no. now, if you take such an unbalanced approach, then that means you are going to be gutting our investments in schools and education. it means that governor romney talked about medicaid and how we could send it back to the states but effectively, that means a 30% cut in the primary program we have for kids with disabilities, seniors in nursing homes. that is not a right strategy. >> way over the two minutes. >> sorry. >> governor, will you support simpson bowls? >> the president should have grabbed that -- >> do you
governor romney earlier mentioned the simpson commission. that's how the bipartisan commission that talked about how we should move forward, suggested we should do it. with some revenue and some spending cuts. and this is a major difference that governor romney and i have. let me just finish this point, because you're looking for contrasts. you know, when governor romney stood on a stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cuts...
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. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >> even people in california say romney won the debate last night. an exclusive poll of adults here in the golden state show 48% think governor romney won compared to 34% for president obama. 18% felt there was no clear-cut winner. >>> we would like to get a discussion going this morning. who do you think won round one of the presidential debates and why? comment on facebook, twitter or email us at mornings@cbs5.co
. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm...
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governor romney himself, meanwhile s meeting with supporters in colorado. romney said the debate gave him a chance to frame the campaign for the country for what their choice would be. >> last night, i thought it was a great opportunity for the american people to see two different visions for the country. it was helpful to describe the vigs. i saw the president's vision as trickledown government. >> governor romney may dance around his position but, if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth so he's the truth: governor romney can not pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. >> and the latest poll packs up that romney won the debate and 22% said the president came out on top. >> tom fitzgerald tonight in virginia's senate race. tim kaine continues to lead republican george allen in the polls. a wall street journal-maris poll of likely voters found cane with -- cane with 47% and putting him as the front runner after months of deadlock. >>> and new developments in the deadly sho
governor romney himself, meanwhile s meeting with supporters in colorado. romney said the debate gave him a chance to frame the campaign for the country for what their choice would be. >> last night, i thought it was a great opportunity for the american people to see two different visions for the country. it was helpful to describe the vigs. i saw the president's vision as trickledown government. >> governor romney may dance around his position but, if you want to be president, you...
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governor romney was a clear victor tonight. the question politically, is is it going to matter in the election? that's why the sampling of undecided voters matters. and i would say that those findings are significant if there are a lot of ub decided voters. -- undecided voter. we know that these debates tend to reenforce preferences. a lot of people have already made up their mind. did anybody's minds get changed? my guess is not in this case. the nod goes to governor romney, but i don't know if it's going to change the election just yet. >> reporter: you talked about body language. we know that romney has done 19 debates in the past year: the president not had had one for four years. >> and he's had practice. but in this instance , the president i think forgot something he learned before. when you're showing a split screen, you don't want to be looking down, you don't want to be looking as if you're jump barely tolerating having to put up with them there. and that was the visual coming across a lot of times. it tends to reenfo
governor romney was a clear victor tonight. the question politically, is is it going to matter in the election? that's why the sampling of undecided voters matters. and i would say that those findings are significant if there are a lot of ub decided voters. -- undecided voter. we know that these debates tend to reenforce preferences. a lot of people have already made up their mind. did anybody's minds get changed? my guess is not in this case. the nod goes to governor romney, but i don't know...
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that is probably a promise governor romney things i kept. i also promise i fight every single dayyon behalf of the american people, the middle class, and although striving to get into the middle class, i have kept that promise. if you will vote for me, then i will promise i will fight just as hard in the second term. >> the romney -- governor romney. >> this is an important election and i'm concerned about america. i am concerned about the taking over the last four years. i know this is bigger than an election about the two of us as indivvduals. -pit is bigger than our respecte parties. it is an election about the course of america. what kknd of america do you want to have for yourself and your children? there are two seven pads we begin speaking about this evening. we will have two more presidential debates and a vice presidential debate. we will talk about those two pads. -- paths. you do not have to just look at our work. you can look at the record. if the president would be reelected, you will see a middle-class squeeze. income going dow
that is probably a promise governor romney things i kept. i also promise i fight every single dayyon behalf of the american people, the middle class, and although striving to get into the middle class, i have kept that promise. if you will vote for me, then i will promise i will fight just as hard in the second term. >> the romney -- governor romney. >> this is an important election and i'm concerned about america. i am concerned about the taking over the last four years. i know...
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governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who published a behind the scenes book about president obama has another theory. >> something happened. maybe in foreign affairs, they got some intelligence report or something -- who knows? but i think as the onion gets peeled on this, we'll find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> bret: just a look back, you may remember president obama cracked one liners at the white house correspondence dinner right after giving the green light for the osama bin laden raid. >>> the air traffic controllers union and
governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who...
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governor romney says we should replace it. i'i'm going to repeal it, but we can replace it with something. the problem is he can't described what we're going to replace it with other than to say we'll leave it to the states. the fact of the matter is, some of the prescriptions that he's offered, like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow is going to help somebody who has a preexisting condition to be able to finally buy insurance. it's estimate by repealing obamaed care you're looking at 50 million people losing health insurance at a time when it's vitally important. >> lehrer: let's let the governor explanation what you would do if obamacare is repealed. >> actually, it's a lengthy description. but number one, preexisting conditions are covereed under my plan. number two, young people can stay on the plans. that's already offered in the marketplace. you don't need the government to mandate that. let's come back to something the president and i agree on, the key task we have in h
governor romney says we should replace it. i'i'm going to repeal it, but we can replace it with something. the problem is he can't described what we're going to replace it with other than to say we'll leave it to the states. the fact of the matter is, some of the prescriptions that he's offered, like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow is going to help somebody who has a preexisting condition to be able to finally buy insurance. it's estimate by...
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leading with 47% of the vote, governor romney with 44. virginia has 13 electoral votes up for grabs. that's where john roberts is right now, live in fisher'sville, virginia. what is the event going on there today, john. >> country music star trace atkins will be joining governor romney and his running nature at 6:45 on stage. president obama won this state by six in 2008. governor romney trailing in the polls currently hoping to use his debate performance to narrow the gap. it was the first time the two candidates were on stage face-to-face, a chance for governor romney to one-on-one answer allegations that the obama campaign has been firing his way. one of them over this idea that governor romney is trying to implement a $5 trillion tax cut for the rich. he repeatedly answered that question for president until it finally came down to this. >> look i've got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that is not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. but that is not the case, all right. i will
leading with 47% of the vote, governor romney with 44. virginia has 13 electoral votes up for grabs. that's where john roberts is right now, live in fisher'sville, virginia. what is the event going on there today, john. >> country music star trace atkins will be joining governor romney and his running nature at 6:45 on stage. president obama won this state by six in 2008. governor romney trailing in the polls currently hoping to use his debate performance to narrow the gap. it was the...